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Croatia Rally 2021

WRC #3WRC 2 #3JWRC #1WRC 3 #3
22. 4. – 25. 4. 2021, Zagreb • AK Cro Dakar Team + AK Delta Timing • asphalt 300.32 km • total distance including road sections - 1270.89 km • Other years
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SS4 Pećurkovo Brdo - Mrežnički Novaki 1 - 9.11 km
- 23. 4. 11:38
1.flag
#11
logo
Neuville Thierry
- Wydaeghe Martijn

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:51.9112.4
2.flag
#33
logo
Evans Elfyn
- Martin Scott

Toyota Yaris WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:52.4+0.5
+0.5
112.2
0.05
3.flag
#1
logo
Ogier Sébastien
- Ingrassia Julien

Toyota Yaris WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:52.9+1.0
+0.5
112.0
0.11
4.flag
#8
logo
Tänak Ott
- Järveoja Martin

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:53.7+1.8
+0.8
111.7
0.20
5.flag
#42
logo
Breen Craig
- Nagle Paul

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:53.9+2.0
+0.2
111.6
0.22
6.flag
#7
logo
Loubet Pierre-Louis
- Landais Vincent

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:55.9+4.0
+2.0
110.8
0.44
7.flag
#16
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Fourmaux Adrien
- Jamoul Renaud

Ford Fiesta WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:58.2+6.3
+2.3
110.0
0.69
8.flag
#44
logo
Greensmith Gus
- Patterson Chris

Ford Fiesta WRC
tyre
RC1
M
4:58.3+6.4
+0.1
109.9
0.70
9.flag
#34
logo
Lindholm Emil
- Korhonen Mikael

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:07.2+15.3
+8.9
106.8
1.68
10.flag
#24
logo
Østberg Mads
- Eriksen Torstein

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC25:08.7+16.8
+1.5
106.2
1.84
11.flag
#27
logo
Rossel Yohan
- Coria Alexandre

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC25:09.3+17.4
+0.6
106.0
1.91
12.flag
#21
logo
Gryazin Nikolay
- Aleksandrov K.

Volkswagen Polo GTI R5
tyre
RC25:09.5+17.6
+0.2
106.0
1.93
13.flag
#32
logo
Kajetanowicz Kajetan
- Szczepaniak M.

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:10.2+18.3
+0.7
105.7
2.01
14.flag
#29
logo
Neubauer Hermann
- Ettel Bernhard

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC25:11.0+19.1
+0.8
105.5
2.10
15.flag
#26
logo
Kristensson Tom
- Arhusiander David

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC25:12.9+21.0
+1.9
104.8
2.31
16.flag
#35
logo
Ingram Chris
- Whittock Ross

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:15.0+23.1
+2.1
104.1
2.54
17.flag
#18
logo
Katsuta Takamoto
- Barritt Daniel

Toyota Yaris WRC
tyre
RC15:15.1+23.2
+0.1
104.1
2.55
18.flag
#22
logo
Bulacia Wilkinson M.
- Der Ohannesian M.

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:16.6+24.7
+1.5
103.6
2.71
19.flag
#28
logo
Ciamin Nicolas
- Roche Yannick

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC25:16.7+24.8
+0.1
103.6
2.72
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#38
logo
Mayr-Melnhof Niki
- Welsersheimb L.

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC25:16.7+24.8
+0.0
103.6
2.72
21.flag
#40
logo
Bedoret Sébastien
- Walbrecq Thomas

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC25:21.2+29.3
+4.5
102.1
3.22
22.flag
#20
logo
Mikkelsen Andreas
- Fløene Ola

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:22.4+30.5
+1.2
101.7
3.35
23.flag
#68
logo
Rådström Dennis
- Johansson Johan

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:25.3+33.4
+2.9
100.8
3.67
24.flag
#30
logo
De Cecco Cédric
- Humblet Jérôme

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:27.7+35.8
+2.4
100.1
3.93
25.flag
#48
logo
Koči Martin
- Těšínský Petr

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:28.6+36.7
+0.9
99.8
4.03
26.flag
#62
logo
Roché Pierre
- Mondon Cédric

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC25:31.1+39.2
+2.5
99.1
4.30
27.flag
#37
logo
Zaldivar Fabrizio
- del Barrio Carlos

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:32.1+40.2
+1.0
98.8
4.41
28.flag
#49
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Armstrong Jon
- Hall Phil

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:32.2+40.3
+0.1
98.7
4.42
29.flag
#51
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Joona Lauri
- Koponen Ari

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:33.2+41.3
+1.0
98.4
4.53
30.flag
#39
logo
Miele Mauro
- Beltrame Luca

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:33.4+41.5
+0.2
98.4
4.56
31.flag
#47
logo
Badiu Raul
- Fetean Rareș

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:34.1+42.2
+0.7
98.2
4.63
32.flag
#31
logo
Keferböck Johannes
- Minor Ilka

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:34.5+42.6
+0.4
98.0
4.68
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#63
logo
Novak Aljoša
- Cevc Jaka

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:34.5+42.6
+0.0
98.0
4.68
34.flag
#36
logo
Arai Hiroki
- Heigl Jürgen

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC25:35.8+43.9
+1.3
97.7
4.82
35.flag
#43
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Raith Kevin
- Winter Gerald

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC25:38.3+46.4
+2.5
96.9
5.09
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#45
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Sesks Mārtiņš
- Francis Renars

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:38.3+46.4
+0.0
96.9
5.09
37.flag
#55
logo
Ragues Pierre
- Pesenti Julien

Volkswagen Polo GTI R5
tyre
RC25:38.8+46.9
+0.5
96.8
5.15
38.flag
#58
logo
Puskádi János
- Gódor Barnabás

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:42.0+50.1
+3.2
95.9
5.50
39.flag
#59
logo
Lemaitre Eddie
- Chauffray Thomas

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC25:44.4+52.5
+2.4
95.2
5.76
40.flag
#52
logo
Virves Robert
- Pruul Sander

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:44.5+52.6
+0.1
95.2
5.77
41.flag
#25
logo
Suninen Teemu
- Markkula Mikko

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC25:47.3+55.4
+2.8
94.4
6.08
42.flag
#65
logo
Göttig Stefan
- Solbach-Schmidt N.

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC25:48.2+56.3
+0.9
94.2
6.18
43.flag
#64
logo
Peljhan Darko
- Čar Matej

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC25:49.2+57.3
+1.0
93.9
6.29
44.flag
#23
logo
Brazzoli Enrico
- Barone Maurizio

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC25:54.9+1:03.0
+5.7
92.4
6.92
45.flag
#50
logo
Creighton William
- Regan Liam

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC45:56.2+1:04.3
+1.3
92.1
7.06
46.flag
#57
logo
Panagiotis Yannick
- Panagiotis V.

Alpine A110 Rally RGT
tyre
RGT5:59.6+1:07.7
+3.4
91.2
7.43
47.flag
#53
logo
Pereira Armando
- Tutélaire Rémi

Ford Fiesta WRC
tyre
RC16:02.7+1:10.8
+3.1
90.4
7.77
48.flag
#66
logo
Windisch Enrico
- Huber Kurt

Audi A1 Rally2-Kit
tyre
RC26:10.4+1:18.5
+7.7
88.5
8.62
49.flag
#78
logo
Roussel Frédéric
- Gilbert François

Peugeot 208 Rally4
tyre
RC46:12.7+1:20.8
+2.3
88.0
8.87
50.flag
#81
logo
Kramer Jun. A.
- Kvick Andersson J.

Renault Clio RSR Rally5
tyre
RC56:14.2+1:22.3
+1.5
87.6
9.03
51.flag
#56
logo
Baffoun Philippe
- Dunand Arnaud

Alpine A110 Rally RGT
tyre
RGT6:14.5+1:22.6
+0.3
87.6
9.07
52.flag
#71
logo
Premrl Grega
- Brešer Gregor

Toyota GT86 CS-R3
tyre
RC46:16.4+1:24.5
+1.9
87.1
9.28
53.flag
#73
logo
Ravenščak Krešimir
- Ravenščak D.

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC46:17.6+1:25.7
+1.2
86.9
9.41
54.flag
#67
logo
László Zoltán
- Berendi Dávid

Ford Fiesta Rally3
tyre
RC36:22.0+1:30.1
+4.4
85.9
9.89
55.flag
#77
logo
Magličić Željko
- Nemak Domagoj

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC46:24.3+1:32.4
+2.3
85.3
10.1
56.flag
#72
logo
Ravenščak Martin
- Tomašković T.

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC46:30.0+1:38.1
+5.7
84.1
10.8
57.flag
#75
logo
Siladić Ivica
- Durak Jasna

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC46:35.0+1:43.1
+5.0
83.0
11.3
58.flag
#76
logo
Brazda Primož
- Tavčar Primož

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC46:43.7+1:51.8
+8.7
81.2
12.3
59.flag
#80
logo
Pauget Pascal
- Bellavarde Mélodie

Renault Clio RSR Rally5
tyre
RC56:54.5+2:02.6
+10.8
79.1
13.5
60.flag
#79
logo
Cusimano Alain
- Kukulka Sylvain

Renault Twingo RS R1
tyre
RC56:55.7+2:03.8
+1.2
78.9
13.6
61.flag
#74
logo
Butorac Mateo
- Stiperski Marko

Peugeot 208 Rally4
tyre
RC46:59.7+2:07.8
+4.0
78.1
14.0
62.flag
#46
logo
Pajari Sami
- Salminen Marko

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC47:16.6+2:24.7
+16.9
75.1
15.9
63.flag
#60
logo
Schwab Stan
- Blanc Nicolas

Ford Fiesta R5
tyre
RC27:19.5+2:27.6
+2.9
74.6
16.2
Overall
1.flag
#11
logo
Neuville Thierry
- Wydaeghe Martijn

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
27:47.9
107.7
2.flag
#33
logo
Evans Elfyn
- Martin Scott

Toyota Yaris WRC
tyre
RC1
M
27:55.2
+7.3
+7.3
107.3
0.15
3.flag
#1
logo
Ogier Sébastien
- Ingrassia Julien

Toyota Yaris WRC
tyre
RC1
M
28:00.2
+12.3
+5.0
106.9
0.25
4.flag
#8
logo
Tänak Ott
- Järveoja Martin

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
28:13.2
+25.3
+13.0
106.1
0.51
5.flag
#42
logo
Breen Craig
- Nagle Paul

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
28:21.3
+33.4
+8.1
105.6
0.67
6.flag
#16
logo
Fourmaux Adrien
- Jamoul Renaud

Ford Fiesta WRC
tyre
RC1
M
28:32.3
+44.4
+11.0
104.9
0.89
7.
+1
flag
#44
logo
Greensmith Gus
- Patterson Chris

Ford Fiesta WRC
tyre
RC1
M
28:37.4
+49.5
+5.1
104.6
0.99
8.
+1
flag
#7
logo
Loubet Pierre-Louis
- Landais Vincent

Hyundai i20 Coupe WRC
tyre
RC1
M
28:43.3
+55.4
+5.9
104.3
1.11
9.
−2
flag
#18
logo
Katsuta Takamoto
- Barritt Daniel

Toyota Yaris WRC
tyre
RC128:54.0
+1:06.1
+10.7
103.6
1.32
10.flag
#24
logo
Østberg Mads
- Eriksen Torstein

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC229:29.4
+1:41.5
+35.4
101.5
2.03
11.
+1
flag
#21
logo
Gryazin Nikolay
- Aleksandrov K.

Volkswagen Polo GTI R5
tyre
RC229:38.4
+1:50.5
+9.0
101.0
2.21
12.
+1
flag
#27
logo
Rossel Yohan
- Coria Alexandre

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC230:08.7
+2:20.8
+30.3
99.3
2.82
13.
−2
flag
#25
logo
Suninen Teemu
- Markkula Mikko

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC230:14.7
+2:26.8
+6.0
99.0
2.94
14.flag
#22
logo
Bulacia Wilkinson M.
- Der Ohannesian M.

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC230:17.3
+2:29.4
+2.6
98.9
2.99
15.flag
#26
logo
Kristensson Tom
- Arhusiander David

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC230:17.7
+2:29.8
+0.4
98.8
3.00
16.
+1
flag
#32
logo
Kajetanowicz Kajetan
- Szczepaniak M.

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC230:18.2
+2:30.3
+0.5
98.8
3.01
17.
−1
flag
#38
logo
Mayr-Melnhof Niki
- Welsersheimb L.

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC230:21.9
+2:34.0
+3.7
98.6
3.09
18.flag
#28
logo
Ciamin Nicolas
- Roche Yannick

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC230:38.9
+2:51.0
+17.0
97.7
3.43
19.flag
#35
logo
Ingram Chris
- Whittock Ross

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC230:42.8
+2:54.9
+3.9
97.5
3.50
20.flag
#34
logo
Lindholm Emil
- Korhonen Mikael

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC230:50.9
+3:03.0
+8.1
97.1
3.67
21.flag
#40
logo
Bedoret Sébastien
- Walbrecq Thomas

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC231:27.3
+3:39.4
+36.4
95.2
4.40
22.flag
#30
logo
De Cecco Cédric
- Humblet Jérôme

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC231:40.5
+3:52.6
+13.2
94.5
4.66
23.flag
#36
logo
Arai Hiroki
- Heigl Jürgen

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC231:49.2
+4:01.3
+8.7
94.1
4.83
24.
+1
flag
#48
logo
Koči Martin
- Těšínský Petr

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC431:51.2
+4:03.3
+2.0
94.0
4.87
25.
−1
flag
#37
logo
Zaldivar Fabrizio
- del Barrio Carlos

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC231:53.4
+4:05.5
+2.2
93.9
4.92
26.
+4
flag
#29
logo
Neubauer Hermann
- Ettel Bernhard

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC231:59.4
+4:11.5
+6.0
93.6
5.04
27.
−1
flag
#47
logo
Badiu Raul
- Fetean Rareș

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC432:00.1
+4:12.2
+0.7
93.6
5.05
28.
−1
flag
#31
logo
Keferböck Johannes
- Minor Ilka

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC232:08.1
+4:20.2
+8.0
93.2
5.21
29.flag
#49
logo
Armstrong Jon
- Hall Phil

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC432:11.2
+4:23.3
+3.1
93.0
5.28
30.
−2
flag
#51
logo
Joona Lauri
- Koponen Ari

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC432:11.4
+4:23.5
+0.2
93.0
5.28
31.
+1
flag
#68
logo
Rådström Dennis
- Johansson Johan

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC432:15.4
+4:27.5
+4.0
92.8
5.36
32.
+1
flag
#62
logo
Roché Pierre
- Mondon Cédric

Citroën C3 Rally2
tyre
RC232:23.0
+4:35.1
+7.6
92.5
5.51
33.
−2
flag
#45
logo
Sesks Mārtiņš
- Francis Renars

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC432:26.8
+4:38.9
+3.8
92.3
5.59
34.flag
#39
logo
Miele Mauro
- Beltrame Luca

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC232:33.3
+4:45.4
+6.5
92.0
5.72
35.flag
#52
logo
Virves Robert
- Pruul Sander

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC432:50.8
+5:02.9
+17.5
91.2
6.07
36.flag
#58
logo
Puskádi János
- Gódor Barnabás

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC233:00.4
+5:12.5
+9.6
90.7
6.26
37.
+1
flag
#43
logo
Raith Kevin
- Winter Gerald

Ford Fiesta Rally2
tyre
RC233:17.9
+5:30.0
+17.5
89.9
6.61
38.
−1
flag
#50
logo
Creighton William
- Regan Liam

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC433:29.1
+5:41.2
+11.2
89.4
6.84
39.flag
#59
logo
Lemaitre Eddie
- Chauffray Thomas

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
tyre
RC233:47.8
+5:59.9
+18.7
88.6
7.21
40.flag
#65
logo
Göttig Stefan
- Solbach-Schmidt N.

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC233:59.2
+6:11.3
+11.4
88.1
7.44
41.
+2
flag
#64
logo
Peljhan Darko
- Čar Matej

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC234:18.2
+6:30.3
+19.0
87.3
7.82
42.flag
#23
logo
Brazzoli Enrico
- Barone Maurizio

Škoda Fabia R5
tyre
RC234:19.8
+6:31.9
+1.6
87.2
7.85
43.
+1
flag
#57
logo
Panagiotis Yannick
- Panagiotis V.

Alpine A110 Rally RGT
tyre
RGT34:31.5
+6:43.6
+11.7
86.7
8.09
44.
+1
flag
#81
logo
Kramer Jun. A.
- Kvick Andersson J.

Renault Clio RSR Rally5
tyre
RC535:08.7
+7:20.8
+37.2
85.2
8.83
45.
−4
flag
#46
logo
Pajari Sami
- Salminen Marko

Ford Fiesta Rally4
tyre
RC435:39.8
+7:51.9
+31.1
84.0
9.46
46.
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Pereira Armando
- Tutélaire Rémi

Ford Fiesta WRC
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RC135:53.0
0:10
+8:05.1
+13.2
83.8
9.72
47.
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Roussel Frédéric
- Gilbert François

Peugeot 208 Rally4
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RC436:02.7
+8:14.8
+9.7
83.1
9.91
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Ravenščak Krešimir
- Ravenščak D.

Ford Fiesta Rally4
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RC436:36.3
+8:48.4
+33.6
81.8
10.6
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Premrl Grega
- Brešer Gregor

Toyota GT86 CS-R3
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RC436:45.5
+8:57.6
+9.2
81.5
10.8
50.
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Ragues Pierre
- Pesenti Julien

Volkswagen Polo GTI R5
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RC236:49.9
+9:02.0
+4.4
81.3
10.9
51.
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Baffoun Philippe
- Dunand Arnaud

Alpine A110 Rally RGT
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RGT36:54.7
+9:06.8
+4.8
81.1
11.0
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Magličić Željko
- Nemak Domagoj

Ford Fiesta Rally4
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RC437:08.9
+9:21.0
+14.2
80.6
11.2
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László Zoltán
- Berendi Dávid

Ford Fiesta Rally3
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RC337:11.2
+9:23.3
+2.3
80.5
11.3
54.
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Windisch Enrico
- Huber Kurt

Audi A1 Rally2-Kit
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RC237:18.9
+9:31.0
+7.7
80.3
11.4
55.
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Ravenščak Martin
- Tomašković T.

Ford Fiesta Rally4
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RC437:20.9
+9:33.0
+2.0
80.2
11.5
56.
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Butorac Mateo
- Stiperski Marko

Peugeot 208 Rally4
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RC437:44.1
+9:56.2
+23.2
79.4
12.0
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Siladić Ivica
- Durak Jasna

Ford Fiesta Rally4
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RC438:40.3
+10:52.4
+56.2
77.4
13.1
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Brazda Primož
- Tavčar Primož

Ford Fiesta Rally4
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RC439:07.1
+11:19.2
+26.8
76.6
13.6
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Pauget Pascal
- Bellavarde Mélodie

Renault Clio RSR Rally5
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RC540:02.1
+12:14.2
+55.0
74.8
14.7
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Cusimano Alain
- Kukulka Sylvain

Renault Twingo RS R1
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RC540:12.0
+12:24.1
+9.9
74.5
14.9
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Novak Aljoša
- Cevc Jaka

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
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RC241:27.5
+13:39.6
+1:15.5
72.2
16.4
62.flag
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Schwab Stan
- Blanc Nicolas

Ford Fiesta R5
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RC250:10.6
+22:22.7
+8:43.1
59.7
26.9
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Mikkelsen Andreas
- Fløene Ola

Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo
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RC21:08:55.1
2:10
+41:07.2
+18:44.5
44.9
49.4
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Little accident, but continued
"It was a slippery place. I lost the line and went a bit wide."
were off road
"It's the first time for me in these conditions, but this stage was very enjoyable. Let's continue, I am sure it will be much better this afternoon."
"I am so happy. The car is amazing and I am enjoying so much. I made some mistakes in this stage but I don't really care - I just want to drive this car and see where the limit is."
"It wasn't too bad. That was probably the slippiest stage of the morning and there were a few places I ran wide."
"I didn't understand a pace note maybe. The junction came very quick and we braked too late. Luckily this is the last one of the loop."
missed a junction
"The surface is so strange here. Even now, it's dry but we can't get the tyre working."
"I think it's tricky - the grip is changing a lot, especially towards the end of this stage. It's not easy."
"It was very slippery and I made a couple of mistakes where we went a bit wide because of low grip. Not super-happy with the set-up, but it's still a long way."
"We had a decent loop. Obviously doing the best I can, the two last stages were really slippery as well. There were some really surprising grip changes."
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