1. Central European Rally 2023
25. 10. – 29. 10. 2023, Passau • Central European Rally Event GmbH + ADAC Südbayern e.V. • asphalt 310.01 km • total distance including road sections - 1690.67 km • Other years
SS6 Vlachovo Březí 2 - 13.66 km
- 27. 10. 14:32
1. |
#33 |
Evans Elfyn - Martin Scott Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:15.0 | 113.0 | |
2. |
#11 |
Neuville Thierry - Wydaeghe M. Hyundai i20 N Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:16.1 |
+1.1 + 1.1 |
112.8 0.08 |
3. |
#69 |
Rovanperä Kalle - Halttunen J. Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:16.7 |
+1.7 + 0.6 |
112.6 0.12 |
4. |
#8 |
Tänak Ott - Järveoja Martin Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:23.6 |
+8.6 + 6.9 |
110.9 0.63 |
5. |
#13 |
Munster Grégoire - Louka Louis Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 |
7:26.5 [N] |
+11.5 + 2.9 |
110.1 0.84 |
6. |
#17 |
Ogier Sébastien - Landais V. Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:28.3 |
+13.3 + 1.8 |
109.7 0.97 |
7. |
#18 |
Katsuta Takamoto - Johnston Aaron Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 | 7:28.7 |
+13.7 + 0.4 |
109.6 1.00 |
8. |
#7 |
Loubet Pierre-Louis - Veillas B. Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:29.6 [N] |
+14.6 + 0.9 |
109.4 1.07 |
9. |
#3 |
Suninen Teemu - Markkula Mikko Hyundai i20 N Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
7:32.8 [N] |
+17.8 + 3.2 |
108.6 1.30 |
10. |
#20 |
Mikkelsen Andreas - Eriksen T. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 9.8 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#22 |
Greensmith Gus - Andersson Jonas Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#23 |
Pajari Sami - Mälkönen Enni Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#24 |
Fourmaux Adrien - Coria Alexandre Ford Fiesta Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#25 |
Gryazin Nikolay - Aleksandrov K. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#26 |
Kajetanowicz K. - Szczepaniak M. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#27 |
Lindholm Emil - Hämäläinen R. Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#28 |
Marczyk Mikołaj - Dymurski D. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#30 |
Linnamäe Georg - Morgan James Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#31 |
Cais Erik - Trunkát Daniel Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#32 |
McErlean Josh - Fulton James Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#34 |
Zaldivar F. - Der Ohannesian M. Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#36 |
Ciamin Nicolas - Roche Yannick Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#38 |
Skála Jan - Skořepa Jiří Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#39 |
Wagner Simon - Winter Gerald Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#41 |
Březík Adam - Krajča Ondřej Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#44 |
Vojtěch Štěpán - Ernst Michal Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#46 |
Roßgatterer Martin - Heigl J. Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#47 |
Horák Michal - Horák Ivan Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#48 |
Kremer Armin - Kremer Ella Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#49 |
Keferböck Johannes - Minor Ilka Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#50 |
Fukunaga Osamu - Saida Misako Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#52 |
Díaz-Aboitiz Miguel - Sanjuan R. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#53 |
Marchino Filippo - Ometto P. Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#54 |
Vossen Henk - van Hoek Radboud Ford Fiesta Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#55 |
Kohn Filip - Woodburn Tom Ford Fiesta Rally3 |
RC3 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#56 |
Schwarz Fabio - Ettel Bernhard Ford Fiesta Rally3 |
RC3 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#58 |
Rary Emeric - Henry Fabrice Citroën C3 Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#59 |
Allkofer C. - Götzenberger K. Ford Fiesta Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#60 |
van den Brink M. - van Heun B. Renault Clio Rally3 |
RC3 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#61 |
Schulz Timo - Wenzel Michael Opel Corsa Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#62 |
Mohe Carsten - Hirsch Alexander Renault Clio Rally3 |
RC3 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#63 |
László Zoltán - Zsiros Gábor Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#64 |
Fontana Matteo - Arnaboldi A. Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#65 |
Fumal Armand - Escartefigue Jules Alpine A110 Rally RGT |
RGT |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#66 |
Nešetřil Petr - Černoch Jiří Porsche 997 GT3 |
RGT |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#68 |
Kačírek P. - Řiháková P. Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#70 |
Jirovec Jiří - Král Josef Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#71 |
Irlacher Wolfgang - Irlacher Elke Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#72 |
Wallner Christian - Konrad F. Ford Fiesta Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#73 |
Borodin Petr - Cheprasov Roman Ford Fiesta Rally4 [SR] |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#75 |
Weigert Timo - Weigert Jasmin Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#76 |
Strabello Paolo - Bianchi Davide Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#78 |
Wilson Conor - Marsh Sean Ford Fiesta Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#79 |
Pahlitzsch Thomas - Grundmann S. Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
= |
#80 |
Stejskal Václav sen. - Omelka Z. Renault Clio Rally5 |
RC5 |
7:42.6 [N] |
+27.6 + 0.0 |
106.3 2.02 |
56. |
#35 |
Cachón Alejandro - López A. Citroën C3 Rally2 |
RC2 |
17:42.6 [N] |
+10:27.6 + 10:00.0 |
46.3 45.9 |
= |
#45 |
von Thurn und Taxis A. - Hain J. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
17:42.6 [N] |
+10:27.6 + 0.0 |
46.3 45.9 |
= |
#57 |
Ravenščak M. - Ravenščak D. Ford Fiesta Rally3 |
RC3 |
17:42.6 [N] |
+10:27.6 + 0.0 |
46.3 45.9 |
= |
#67 |
Rada Martin - Jugas Jaroslav Abarth 124 Rally RGT |
RGT |
17:42.6 [N] |
+10:27.6 + 0.0 |
46.3 45.9 |
= |
#81 |
Šekuljica Slaven - Petrović D. Renault Clio Rally5 [SR] |
RC5 |
17:42.6 [N] |
+10:27.6 + 0.0 |
46.3 45.9 |
Overall
1. |
#69 |
Rovanperä Kalle - Halttunen J. Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
46:22.0 |
111.3 | |
2. |
#33 |
Evans Elfyn - Martin Scott Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
46:49.5 |
+27.5 +27.5 | 110.2 0.32 |
3. |
#11 |
Neuville Thierry - Wydaeghe M. Hyundai i20 N Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
46:51.5 |
+29.5 +2.0 | 110.2 0.34 |
4. |
#8 |
Tänak Ott - Järveoja Martin Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
47:12.7 |
+50.7 +21.2 | 109.3 0.59 |
5. |
#18 |
Katsuta Takamoto - Johnston Aaron Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 |
47:51.5 |
+1:29.5 +38.8 | 107.9 1.04 |
6. |
#3 |
Suninen Teemu - Markkula Mikko Hyundai i20 N Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
48:01.5 |
+1:39.5 +10.0 | 107.5 1.16 |
7. |
#13 |
Munster Grégoire - Louka Louis Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 |
48:02.9 |
+1:40.9 +1.4 | 107.4 1.17 |
8. |
#17 |
Ogier Sébastien - Landais V. Toyota GR Yaris Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
48:18.0 |
+1:56.0 +15.1 | 106.9 1.35 |
9. |
#7 |
Loubet Pierre-Louis - Veillas B. Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid |
RC1 M |
49:06.6 1:00 |
+2:44.6 +48.6 | 107.3 1.91 |
10. |
#27 |
Lindholm Emil - Hämäläinen R. Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:11.3 |
+3:49.3 +1:04.7 | 102.8 2.67 |
11. |
#31 |
Cais Erik - Trunkát Daniel Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:29.2 |
+4:07.2 +17.9 | 102.2 2.87 |
12. |
#26 |
Kajetanowicz K. - Szczepaniak M. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:33.5 |
+4:11.5 +4.3 | 102.1 2.92 |
13. |
#36 |
Ciamin Nicolas - Roche Yannick Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:34.7 |
+4:12.7 +1.2 | 102.1 2.94 |
14. |
#24 |
Fourmaux Adrien - Coria Alexandre Ford Fiesta Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:42.9 |
+4:20.9 +8.2 | 101.8 3.03 |
15. |
#28 |
Marczyk Mikołaj - Dymurski D. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:44.1 |
+4:22.1 +1.2 | 101.7 3.05 |
16. |
#30 |
Linnamäe Georg - Morgan James Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:53.9 |
+4:31.9 +9.8 | 101.4 3.16 |
17. |
#23 |
Pajari Sami - Mälkönen Enni Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
50:55.6 |
+4:33.6 +1.7 | 101.4 3.18 |
18. |
#25 |
Gryazin Nikolay - Aleksandrov K. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
51:04.8 |
+4:42.8 +9.2 | 101.1 3.29 |
19. |
#32 |
McErlean Josh - Fulton James Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
51:06.3 |
+4:44.3 +1.5 | 101.0 3.30 |
20. |
#22 |
Greensmith Gus - Andersson Jonas Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
51:37.3 |
+5:15.3 +31.0 | 100.0 3.67 |
21. |
#41 |
Březík Adam - Krajča Ondřej Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo |
RC2 |
51:49.3 |
+5:27.3 +12.0 | 99.6 3.80 |
22. |
#34 |
Zaldivar F. - Der Ohannesian M. Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
51:56.8 |
+5:34.8 +7.5 | 99.4 3.89 |
23. |
#38 |
Skála Jan - Skořepa Jiří Hyundai i20 N Rally2 |
RC2 |
51:57.7 0:10 |
+5:35.7 +0.9 | 99.7 3.90 |
24. |
#39 |
Wagner Simon - Winter Gerald Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
52:11.4 |
+5:49.4 +13.7 | 98.9 4.06 |
25. |
#48 |
Kremer Armin - Kremer Ella Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
52:20.5 |
+5:58.5 +9.1 | 98.6 4.17 |
26. |
#46 |
Roßgatterer Martin - Heigl J. Škoda Fabia Rally2 evo |
RC2 |
52:24.0 |
+6:02.0 +3.5 | 98.5 4.21 |
27. +1
|
#44 |
Vojtěch Štěpán - Ernst Michal Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
52:59.9 |
+6:37.9 +35.9 | 97.4 4.63 |
28. +1
|
#55 |
Kohn Filip - Woodburn Tom Ford Fiesta Rally3 |
RC3 |
53:37.0 |
+7:15.0 +37.1 | 96.3 5.06 |
29. +1
|
#49 |
Keferböck Johannes - Minor Ilka Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
53:52.2 |
+7:30.2 +15.2 | 95.8 5.23 |
30. +1
|
#56 |
Schwarz Fabio - Ettel Bernhard Ford Fiesta Rally3 |
RC3 |
54:03.5 |
+7:41.5 +11.3 | 95.5 5.36 |
31. +1
|
#50 |
Fukunaga Osamu - Saida Misako Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
54:23.5 0:10 |
+8:01.5 +20.0 | 95.2 5.60 |
32. +1
|
#62 |
Mohe Carsten - Hirsch Alexander Renault Clio Rally3 |
RC3 |
54:33.0 |
+8:11.0 +9.5 | 94.6 5.71 |
33. +1
|
#60 |
van den Brink M. - van Heun B. Renault Clio Rally3 |
RC3 |
55:01.1 |
+8:39.1 +28.1 | 93.8 6.03 |
34. +1
|
#47 |
Horák Michal - Horák Ivan Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
55:16.0 |
+8:54.0 +14.9 | 93.4 6.21 |
35. +1
|
#61 |
Schulz Timo - Wenzel Michael Opel Corsa Rally4 |
RC4 |
55:16.9 |
+8:54.9 +0.9 | 93.4 6.22 |
36. +1
|
#59 |
Allkofer C. - Götzenberger K. Ford Fiesta Rally2 |
RC2 |
56:09.5 |
+9:47.5 +52.6 | 91.9 6.83 |
37. +1
|
#68 |
Kačírek P. - Řiháková P. Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
56:10.2 |
+9:48.2 +0.7 | 91.9 6.84 |
38. +1
|
#64 |
Fontana Matteo - Arnaboldi A. Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
57:19.4 0:20 |
+10:57.4 +1:09.2 | 90.6 7.64 |
39. +1
|
#58 |
Rary Emeric - Henry Fabrice Citroën C3 Rally2 |
RC2 |
57:48.8 |
+11:26.8 +29.4 | 89.3 7.98 |
40. +1
|
#66 |
Nešetřil Petr - Černoch Jiří Porsche 997 GT3 |
RGT |
57:55.2 |
+11:33.2 +6.4 | 89.1 8.06 |
41. +1
|
#75 |
Weigert Timo - Weigert Jasmin Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
58:22.0 |
+12:00.0 +26.8 | 88.4 8.37 |
42. +1
|
#63 |
László Zoltán - Zsiros Gábor Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
58:37.2 |
+12:15.2 +15.2 | 88.1 8.55 |
43. +1
|
#76 |
Strabello Paolo - Bianchi Davide Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
58:41.0 |
+12:19.0 +3.8 | 88.0 8.59 |
44. +1
|
#71 |
Irlacher Wolfgang - Irlacher Elke Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
58:49.8 |
+12:27.8 +8.8 | 87.7 8.69 |
45. +1
|
#65 |
Fumal Armand - Escartefigue Jules Alpine A110 Rally RGT |
RGT |
59:29.4 0:10 |
+13:07.4 +39.6 | 87.0 9.15 |
46. +1
|
#53 |
Marchino Filippo - Ometto P. Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
59:30.7 |
+13:08.7 +1.3 | 86.7 9.17 |
47. +1
|
#72 |
Wallner Christian - Konrad F. Ford Fiesta Rally4 |
RC4 |
59:45.3 |
+13:23.3 +14.6 | 86.4 9.34 |
48. +1
|
#20 |
Mikkelsen Andreas - Eriksen T. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
1:00:33.4 |
+14:11.4 +48.1 | 85.2 9.90 |
49. +1
|
#52 |
Díaz-Aboitiz Miguel - Sanjuan R. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
1:00:56.4 |
+14:34.4 +23.0 | 84.7 10.2 |
50. +1
|
#78 |
Wilson Conor - Marsh Sean Ford Fiesta Rally4 |
RC4 |
1:01:05.2 |
+14:43.2 +8.8 | 84.5 10.3 |
51. +1
|
#70 |
Jirovec Jiří - Král Josef Škoda Fabia R5 |
RC2 |
1:02:01.6 0:40 |
+15:39.6 +56.4 | 84.1 10.9 |
52. −25
|
#35 |
Cachón Alejandro - López A. Citroën C3 Rally2 |
RC2 |
1:03:04.2 0:10 |
+16:42.2 +1:02.6 | 82.1 11.7 |
53. |
#54 |
Vossen Henk - van Hoek Radboud Ford Fiesta Rally2 |
RC2 |
1:03:14.8 |
+16:52.8 +10.6 | 81.6 11.8 |
54. |
#79 |
Pahlitzsch Thomas - Grundmann S. Peugeot 208 Rally4 |
RC4 |
1:03:43.7 |
+17:21.7 +28.9 | 81.0 12.1 |
55. |
#80 |
Stejskal Václav sen. - Omelka Z. Renault Clio Rally5 |
RC5 |
1:04:33.3 |
+18:11.3 +49.6 | 80.0 12.7 |
56. +1
|
#73 |
Borodin Petr - Cheprasov Roman Ford Fiesta Rally4 [SR] |
RC4 |
1:08:08.5 1:00 |
+21:46.5 +3:35.2 | 76.9 15.2 |
57. −1
|
#45 |
von Thurn und Taxis A. - Hain J. Škoda Fabia RS Rally2 |
RC2 |
1:16:19.4 |
+29:57.4 +8:10.9 | 67.6 20.9 |
58. |
#81 |
Šekuljica Slaven - Petrović D. Renault Clio Rally5 [SR] |
RC5 |
1:24:50.9 |
+38:28.9 +8:31.5 | 60.8 26.8 |
59. |
#57 |
Ravenščak M. - Ravenščak D. Ford Fiesta Rally3 |
RC3 |
1:33:45.6 |
+47:23.6 +8:54.7 | 55.1 33.1 |
60. |
#67 |
Rada Martin - Jugas Jaroslav Abarth 124 Rally RGT |
RGT |
1:38:10.2 |
+51:48.2 +4:24.6 | 52.6 36.1 |
Other info
Stage cancelled for safety reasons / Zkouška zrušena z bezpečnostních důvodů
Penalty
#35 |
Cachón Alejandro - López A. | Citroën C3 Rally2 |
0:10 - Late (1 min) at TC |
Info
Accident
"For sure, some sections are a bit drier but there is still a lot of mud. For me, the bigger problem is that I have no hybrid. It's okay, I am used to this, but I have a lot of hybrid issues"
Hybrid issues
The gravel crew is important, but here not so much because it's full of mud anyway from the morning. We knew this after the first pass already"
"To be honest I can't do more, had a clean stage in there."
"It's pretty horrific conditions, but did what we could."
"It's definitely quite tricky. Even though the weather is drying up the stages are really dirty. I hope this one was the worst of the loop."
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